Planet Sabayon Linux

Sabayon Linux 5.3 “Extra Spins” releases

Our crew, is happy to announce the immediate availability of XFCE, LXDE and SpinBase/OpenVZ Sabayon 5.3 “Spins” built on top of Sabayon “SpinBase” ISO images.
Under the “Extra Spins” umbrella, the Sabayon developers are going to experiment new Stable Releases with different package compositions.
Consider these “Extra Spins” an appetizer of what you will get in the upcoming months: more “Spins” are planned and more external contributions will be accepted.
Just like the other regular Sabayon releases, these “Extra Spins” are also daily built by our Build Servers and available in our mirrors inside the “iso/daily” directory.

Features of Sabayon 5.3 XFCE Spin:
• Bootable Image suitable for a CD or USB thumb drive (<700Mb)
• Linux 2.6.34 Desktop kernel w/Tuxonice and AUFS support
• XFCE 4.6.2 Desktop Environment
• NetworkManager 0.8 as default networking tool
• Out of the box NTFS support via NTFS-3G
• Mozilla Firefox 3.6.6
• Basic VirtualBox Guest integration
• Very fast installation via our Live Anaconda Installer (which gained stability improvements and several new minor features)
• Very minimal setup to fit into a CD, no fancy features and drivers. Designed for low-end computers.
• Package list: amd64
• Package list: x86

Features of Sabayon 5.3 LXDE Spin:
• Bootable Image suitable for a CD or USB thumb drive (<700Mb)
• Linux 2.6.34 Desktop kernel w/Tuxonice and AUFS support
• LXDE 0.5.0 Desktop Environment
• NetworkManager 0.8 as default networking tool
• Out of the box NTFS support via NTFS-3G
• Mozilla Firefox 3.6.6
• Basic VirtualBox Guest integration
• Very fast installation via our Live Anaconda Installer (which gained stability improvements and several new minor features)
• Very minimal setup to fit into a CD, no fancy features and drivers. Designed for low-end computers (and Windows-addicted users).
• Package list: amd64
• Package list: x86

Features of Sabayon 5.3 SpinBase/OpenVZ templates:
• To be used with OpenVZ servers (or Sabayon OpenVZ installations with sys-kernel/linux-openvz kernel)
• Very small footprint, yet providing a full feature OpenVZ guest Virtual Machine
• OpenVZ template installation howto available at planet.sabayon.org
• Package list: amd64
• Package list: x86

Download sources
Our Mirrors Page:
Just choose a link from the list and get to the “iso” directory
- http://www.sabayon.org/download
Bittorrent:
- http://tracker.sabayon.org

MD5 hashes of released files
71923122a703af647cf9128356edf103 Sabayon_Linux_5.3_amd64_LXDE.iso
dba2212e09764186ab56c74fdeb70922 Sabayon_Linux_5.3_x86_LXDE.iso
66c54177b3c26226689b571bb6eb9aa2 Sabayon_Linux_5.3_amd64_XFCE.iso
ec605701b7cbd24c07c82d956377be3e Sabayon_Linux_5.3_x86_XFCE.iso
ee2b3e08ab98e99713df9fa0c2f0fad3 Sabayon_Linux_SpinBase_5.3_amd64_openvz.tar.gz
aec80516bf2992d70960e337842eb8ec Sabayon_Linux_SpinBase_5.3_x86_openvz.tar.gz

(this post was made by Mitch Harder on the development mailing list)

I want to bring everybody up to speed on some name shuffling we are
doing with our “Core” releases.

CoreCDX is now our primary public “Core” release. Users who want to
install a minimal Sabayon Linux version should use this version with
the graphical installer.

The CoreCD has been renamed “SpinBase”. It’s primary purpose is to be
our internal “Base” for building up automated “Spin” releases. It
will be publicly available to anyone who wants it (primarily
developers and molecule users), but will not be advertised as a
“release”.

The upstream maintainers of Anaconda have drastically cut back the
functionality of the Anaconda installer with respect to console-based
text installation.

The graphical installer is working great, and has updated some
capabilities to handle new hardware. But the console-based text
installer has lost the ability to custom partition an installation,
and is primarily directed at installing to an empty disk. Inattentive
users who are used to the previous text-based installer run the hazard
of overwriting their entire hard disk.

During this release cycle, we’ve been struggling with how to handle
this change in our installer. We’ve developed CoreCDX as a release
intended for end users who want a minimal Sabayon Linux system with a
robust, easy-to-use installer.

The CoreCD is still extremely important to Sabayon as we evolve our
“Spin” releases. But it has become of marginal value to end users due
to the limitations of the text-based installer. And, the text-based
installer as it exists now will confuse users and perhaps lead to lose
of data for those expecting it to function like previous releases.

So we have renamed the “CoreCD” to “SpinBase” since the name was too
close to CoreCDX, and would lead to confusion. As previously noted,
it will be publicly available, but not promoted as a “release”.

So, to summarize:
(1) CoreCDX is our new ‘minimal’ release for users who want a
stripped down Sabayon installation.
(2) SpinBase is a release primarily directed at developers who want
to use molecule, and also an important internal release.

Incase you fell asleep, Sabayon 5.3 was release last week.  My internet died for a while so I didn’t get much testing in on the final leg.  I’ve also been busy playin with molecule for my own adventure.  Enjoy!

The best, refined blend of GNU/Linux, coming with bleeding edge edges is eventually here! Say hello to Sabayon Five-point-Threeh, available in both GNOME and KDE editions!

Dedicated to those who like cutting edge stability, out of the box experience, outstanding Desktop performance, clean and beauty. Sabayon 5.3 will catch you, anything that could have been compiled, has been compiled, anything cool that could have been implemented or updated, it’s there: you will find outstanding amount of new applications and features, like XBMC, KDE 4.4, GNOME 2.28, Linux Kernel 2.6.34, and so forth.
So, come on, go catch it, it’s half a DVD away from you!

Visual Tours:
• Take a Tour – Booting (GNOME)
• Take a Tour – Installer (GNOME)
• Take a Tour – Booting (KDE)
• Take a Tour – Installer (KDE)

Features of Sabayon 5.3:
• Based on new GCC 4.4 and Glibc 2.10
• Shipped with Desktop-optimized Linux kernel 2.6.34
• Providing extra Server-optimized and OpenVZ-enabled kernels in repositories
• Installable in 10 minutes
• Fast boot time and lightweight default system
• Ext4 filesystem as default
• Official Btrfs filesystem support
• Encrypted filesystem support
• Featuring X.Org 7.5 and up-to-date, NVIDIA, AMD video drivers
• Containing GNOME 2.28 (with GNOME Shell!) and KDE 4.4.3
• Outstanding 3D Desktop applications (Compiz, Compiz Fusion and KWin) working out of the box
• Bringing Entropy Framework (Package Manager) 0.99.46.9
• Shipped with OpenOffice 3.2 productivity suite, Multimedia applications
• Transform Sabayon into an full-featured HTPC Operating System (Media Center) using XBMC
• Shipped with World of Goo Demo – best 2D game ever!
• Sexiest Skin ever! (Light blueeee!)
• Try it out from Windows, just kick the DVD in and use Sabayon via QEMU virtualization!
• Ready for Sabayon 6 (someday!)

Updates since Sabayon 5.2:
• New Linux Kernel 2.6.34 with enhanced wireless and power management support
• New Installer! Based on Fedora14 Anaconda, with improved LVM, RAID, Encryption, Filesystem support
• Optional language-pack download via Installer
• Improved GRUB2 support
• Improved VirtualBox input/video drivers support (based on 3.2.x branch)
• KDE updated to 4.4.3
• GNOME ready for 2.30 (will be available via updates)
• Entropy Framework (our binary package manager) updated to 0.99.46.9, featuring stability and performance improvements (especially in Sulfur)
• Providing PackageKit library and CLI support (version 0.6.5, kpackagekit and gnome-packagekit available in our repositories)
• More than 1000 new updated packages available (since Sabayon 5.2)
• Reduced ISO images footprint by 150Mb
• Improved XBMC, Media Center installation profile support and reliability (fixing several segfaults)
• Improved keyboard mappings autoconfiguration
• Password for root account is blank, so just hit enter when asks for root password

Requirements
Minimum requirements:
- an i686-compatible Processor (Intel Pentium II/III, Celeron, AMD Athlon)
- 512Mb RAM (GNOME) – 768Mb RAM (KDE)
- 8 GB of free space
- A X.Org supported 2D GPU
- a DVD reader
Optimal requirements:
- a Dual Core Processor (Intel Core 2 Duo or better, AMD Athlon 64 X2 or better)
- 1024Mb RAM
- 15 GB of free space
- A X.Org supported 3D GPU (Intel, AMD, NVIDIA) (esp. for XBMC)

Resources for Sabayon Linux 5.3 GNOME and KDE:
Kernel Configuration:
- Sabayon 5.3 x86 kernel config
- Sabayon 5.3 amd64 kernel config
Packages list:
- Sabayon Linux x86 5.3 KDE Packages
- Sabayon Linux x86-64 5.3 KDE Packages
- Sabayon Linux x86 5.3 GNOME Packages
- Sabayon Linux x86-64 5.3 GNOME Packages

Download sources
Our Mirrors Page:
- http://www.sabayon.org/download
Bittorrent:
- http://tracker.sabayon.org/

Thanks everybody for having made this possible!

It must be about time for an update, tough to blog when summer is here.  5.3 is in the works and is at a RC2 status.  Some of the changes include bug fixes of course, btrfs support, mono removed from grub and installer fixes.  Keep in mind that btrfs is very young in development and should not be used in a stable environment.  I did try it out in a virtual box setting and it seemed to work good for the little bit of time I worked with it.  Mitch follows the progress of it and has been a good source for information.  It sounds like in kernel 2.6.36 things will even be better for btrfs.  I’ll have to try and keep an eye on it myself, seems promising.

We do have on the public mirrors a weekly build that anyone can download and test.  We do have a special forum section setup for discussion, reporting, etc.  You can also use our dev-ML to report stuff.  You can also use our bugzilla, just make the proper selection when reporting.  When reporting, please give as much information as you can, including any and all logs, version and how to reproduce.  If we don’t get enough information we have to dismiss the report, which is frustrating to the devs and to the users.  If you are interested in helping the community and devs, this is a great opportunity to test and report.  We started out with daily isos for testing, but it consumes a lot to do that, so we decided to go weekly.  It sounds like every Sunday at 5AM, (GMT+1, currently UTC+0200) a new iso will be available.  If things change, we will let yas know.  I do hope to see more users testing these isos.

Seeing people having problems with boot splash disappearing after updates.  Fabio reports it’s an upstream bug and simply need to do”

equo update && equo install lvm2 && reboot
<after reboot>
equo install linux-sabayon && reboot

I hope that fixes that issue.  As far as seeing a red, green, deformed image on boot, we are still looking at that as it only seems to effect some.  I have not seen this problem on my machine.  Joost has it happening on his machine tho.  Nvidia vs. ATI, corrupt image or simply aliens running amok.  I don’t know, but sooner or later it will present itself.

Core-cd ran into a problem when anaconda dropped support with the text installer.  Some of the solutions we are tinkering with is a light weight wm like flux to boot into and run the gui installer or try to patch it so it can work like it use to.  I haven’t had time to try out a weekly core-cd test iso lately, but it sounds like flux is what we are using on it right now.  As far as I know and assume, it doesn’t actually install flux when the install is done, but I could be totally wrong on that.   We will have to see what happens with this little adventure.

A few days ago there was a bump in virtual box and some seem to be having issues running it.  I can not reproduce the issue myself.  I’ve been suggesting equo install virtualbox-modules virtualbox-bin && reboot and it works for some.  If that don’t work than I am wondering what kernel you are using.  Remember kernel upgrades are not automatically pulled, you have to tell equo to install the latest kernel.  You should be able to do this simply with equo update && equo install linux-sabayon && equo upgrade.  The last part is important to pull the matching modules/drivers or if you know which modules/drivers you have, you can install just them.  If you don’t reinstall the drivers/modules after a kernel update, you will have a bad experience upon reboot. The latest kernel in entropy is 2.6.33 and 2.6.34 is being worked on.

A quick note about entropy.  It’s important to always make sure you have the latest entropy.  When you see the message that there is a new entropy version and it’s important to install that first, it’s not kidding.  You can solve a lot of issues by making sure you always have the latest entropy.  If you want, you can simply remember to do equo update && equo install entropy equo sulfur && equo upgrade once a day. You can’t go wrong and than you will always have the latest entropy before doing updates.  If you find entropy a bit aggressive on packages being pulled, try the –relaxed option, for example:  equo install foo –relaxed  That should pull lesser packages and if you are still not happy, try –nodeps like equo install foo –nodeps.  Note that  – is two hypens, sometimes on wordpress the hypens look like one.  Hopefully that will help some out.

After several weeks of testing and ironing, we are happy to announce the public availability of daily (or nightly if you prefer) Sabayon Linux (Standard and CoreCD editions) ISO images. The aim is to improve packages and general system functionality testing during releases lifecycle by providing always up-to-date installable LiveDVDs/LiveCDs.

Our stable releases are just “snapshots” of these ISO images, so you will be able to know (and report) about possible hardware, software issue before a new version is published.

Features of Sabayon DAILY ISO images:

• Up-to-date packages (ISO images are built every night)
• Featuring the new Anaconda Installer port
• Speed improvements over 5.2 ISO images
• Fully compliant with our rolling-distro philosophy, keep looking ahead

Minimum Requirements

See respective Press Releases. Got a PC, keyboard and monitor? That’s enough!

Warning, this is the bleeding edge of bleeding edge, do not use them on production systems.

ISO file names do not expose a timestamp directly, but RELEASE_DATE_DAILY does, as well as ISO boot menu and BUILD_INFO inside the ISO image filesystem.

Download sources

Our Mirrors Page:

• NOTE 1: files are inside iso/daily directory
• NOTE 2: these ISO images are moving targets, make sure to check them against respective .md5 files.

http://www.sabayon.org/download

(Seems this never made it to planet so posting it here for reference, very cool imo)

Well, it’s been a while since I’ve blogged, so I think its time I started doing it more regularly again. So what is going down in Sabayon HQ? Well there have been many interesting developments recently which I want to talk about.

Firstly we have the brand spanking new shiny Anaconda installer, this has been well publicised by wolfden and Lxnay and is really shaping up nicely, its about time the installer got an update and it is looking awesome, everyone has been testing (and breaking) the new installer and progress looks excellent. This is of course mainline Anaconda that is used in Fedora and RHEL et al and has inherited all the great features from it with some new sabayon specific stuff too, this version is more closely based on vanilla upstream git and as such we should inherit all the work that is being done upstream a lot faster.

Next up is nightly builds of sabayon, yes you read that correctly. The idea is that you will have one ISO on your hard disk which you will keep updated using rsync’s binary diff capabilities and the Sabayon rsync servers to only update the parts of the ISO that have changed, this is how we have been distributing ISOs to testers for a while now and is much quicker and easier than the old version using Xdelta. What has been done is that we have a scripted molecule install which creates a new ISO at 0200 UTC every night using the latest packages from the mainline repository, from these images the rysnc is updated and you can download the changes, simple but clever if you ask me.

Finally – recruitment. Getting people to work on an open source project is never easy, its not easy to find volunteers for anything in reality as time is such an expensive commodity. I have decided to step down from my position as artwork guy and as such Sabayon is looking for a replacement, if you have some design and theming skills, or even if you don’t why not get in contact with me and I’ll get you started.

You will need a good eye, ability to work in a team an interest in Sabayon and ability to use SVG, it would be preferred if you had some knowledge of bash scripts, ebuilds and linux theming, but we can train you if your designs are great. Once again, please do get in contact, either mail me, start a thread in the forums and show us your stuff or leave a comment even.

…and that’s all I can think of for now.

Beside my finances aren’t so good (hey reader, hire me!), I decided to dedicate this whole month to two main tasks;

1. Porting a new Anaconda (the RedHat installer) snapshot to Gentoo-land (and Sabayon in particular). After spending a whole week catching, one by one (and with the help of anaconda.spec.in) all the build, runtime dependencies the installer requires; and after having cooked every single missing ebuild in Portage to make the magic happen; and after having written (and ported from the old codebase) most of the backend code required to implement a “LiveCD” install, I can say I’m almost done. This time, I took the cleanest path possible in order to be able to keep our Anaconda port aligned with upstream.

You can find my git repo here, and gentoo-dev ML discussion (for reviewing and merging my ebuilds into the Portage tree). Maybe it’s time for Gentoo, to have a good LiveDVD installer?

2. Studies. My University studies are going well, this semester I’m digging into Computer Architecture, Functional Programming (using OCAML) and Java. Beside I always get bored when getting down to Java (maybe because I do like it too much? ), I find writing OCAML code really fun (and funny too?). So, my plans are, passing all these 3 exams in a row. Eheh…

KDE 4.4 Sabayon 5.2 beta

The questions are flowing in and people are getting excited about seeing blue.  Yes, the 5.2 artwork is getting around and people are noticing.  Of course, if you have been using limbo repository you would of been blue for quite some time now.  That Ian sure can make some magic happen with the artwork.  I don’t think it’s fully completed yet, so if you notice something not right, hang on, it’s a coming.  So when do we plan to release this 5.2 beast is the big question burning in the minds.  Right now, everything is pointing to end of March for a final 5.2 release.  The testers group just got the beta isos the other day and are underway of testing and reporting.  It didn’t even have the new artwork packages when it was released so it’s looking pretty identical to 5.1 at the moment.  So what are the changes thus far?

• – In sync with latest repository updates
• – Several Installer fixes (see gitweb)
• – Grub2 support (enabled by default)
• – Removed several unused packages to make ISO images slimmer
• – Ability to live-check installer fixes (if issues arise) by just spawning “cd /opt/anaconda && git pull”
• – Improved boot speed (thanks to latest OpenRC)
• – 2.6.32 kernel by default

Other business, pulseaudio, yes that beloved thing that we are all cussing and beating under the rug.  Tonight, Fabio, Joost and I poked fun at pulseaudio, threatened to remove it, tried several different things and we came to a conclusion that on amd64 the flash is buggy.  It doesn’t work with hulu at the moment.  I even saw on sabayon forum of other sites not working on the amd64 platform.  For me, pulse seems to work with everything, but flash + pulse applications.  This is the only trouble I have ran into.  To get around most of this issue, I have set application preferences to use alsa and I’m using hulu desktop, which is in our entropy.  You can kill pulseaudio totally with the mv /usr/bin/pulseaudio /usr/bin/pulseaudio.old and than restart. How you handle it, it’s up to you, but either way, flash and pulseaudio fixes has to come from upstream, so we wait.  No decisions have been made as of yet for pulseaudio.  Do not look for it to go away just yet.

This is a personal thanks to Fabio as this was my request.  I never liked the progress status on the tab of Sulfur as it never made me feel 100% sure it was done and all was good.  So now it says Tasks completed successfully when it’s done!  No more wondering if it’s safe to close Sulfur.  Thanks Fabio!

Sulfur

We want to start a new fund-raiser and this is an important one I feel.  You all remember the mirror issues we had a couple weeks ago right?  We want to prevent that in the future and we need the help of  our users.  Financial funds have already been put in place directly from the pockets of a few sabayon core members to help with this.  Lets help them back  so they don’t have to take the full blow of these extra costs.  Some other costs we are running into  is spreading the word.  We have members hitting the Linux events and putting on displays and handing out disks to new people.  They are donating the time, but it still costs money to spread the word.  All donations go directly into the project to give more back to the world.  Thank you to each and every one of you that take the time to send in a few dollars.

Anyway,  we will keep you up on the latest 5.2 happenings.  Remember now, 5.2 and the end of March is what we are looking at.  If you are doing your equo update &&  equo world, you are current and rolling along, so no worries for you.

Oh, please do make sure that you keep your entropy to latest version before anything.  Anyone doing a fresh install or upgrade, please do equo update && equo install entropy equo sulfur –nodeps && equo upgrade.  It’s vital to have latest entropy version.

Entropy

Ten days ago, I successfully completed the refactoring of the server-side code (which triggered Entropy 0.14 release). It’s been a clear and complete success. Let me explain why:

1. Code is now faster and cleaner, this means less bugs
2. ServerInterface and ServerMirrorsInterface now support multiple repositories. This triggered the creation of a sandbox/testing repository where all the critical updates will be flushed into for testing. We decided to name it “Jenna” but I won’t tell you after what. If you’ve undestood the nature of the repository, you might get it. So, the new interface is now able to switch to one and another and handle all our deepest wishes. Talking about facts, we already used “Jenna” for testing OpenRC & Baselayout 2.0 along with some X.Org patches and the new kernel (linux-sabayon-2.6.25). Read more later
3. Automatic QA routines: it means, QA controls can be easily implemented and hooked in various parts of the code, one already implemented is the automated missing RDEPEND (dependencies) check, which translates the libraries needed by a package to their owners, also thanks to my studies on the ELF format (evidence: http://pastebin.fr/1471 ). Two funny things emerged:
   1. There are a lot of missing RDEPENDs and it’s a pain to report them upstream sometimes.
   2. Applications creators don’t pay much attention when dealing with a broken by design app like autoconf is.

   A future QA routine I’m going to implement will be “libtest”, like “equo libtest” but ran on the content of a list of packages. This will avoid having broken packages in repository and not notice them.

4. Prepared the path to EAPI=3 (as in Entropy API, revision 3), in a few words: differential updates. This will trim down the time needed to update a repository through Equo/Spritz to a few seconds.

Entropy CORE library is now 20000 lines of code, and I think it will double its size before the end of the year after having added a first chunk of the Spritz “Your Ego” feature.

Along with this refactoring, Entropy 0.14 brough some visible improvements for end users:

1. EquoInterface: improved database queries speed from 20 to 1000% (world updates calculation is now 10x faster)
2. Spritz: improved speed by a good 400% making it really usable
3. Spritz: added a cute GLSA (Security Advisories) interface to keep your system secure
4. Spritz: connected its crash dialog to our errors reporting infrastructure
5. Spritz: implemented searches on TreeViews to ease the search of a package through the list
6. Spritz: cleaned up spritz.pot (the translation template). We need translators!
7. Notification Applet: enable/disable option (if you don’t want it to bug you)
8. Equo/Spritz/Notification Applet: made repositories management possible as user (you can run tasks such as “equo update” just by being in the “entropy” group)
9. Equo/Spritz/Notification Applet: a lot of bug fixes
10. EquoInterface downloader now uses a custom HTTP User Agent string. This makes statistics collection possible. We can see what’s the most downloaded package, how many users use Entropy and so forth.

Talking about future, depending on the amount of donations we’ll receive (I’ll be a bit outta cash starting from the next month), here are Entropy plans for 0.15:

• Community Repositories: now that the server-side code is refactored, I can (eventually) start working on this. In this way, users will be able to create their own overlayed repository providing packages with different use flags or features in general.
• Your Ego services: let me keep a bit of secrecy here. Eheh.
• Spritz: it’s not yet feature complete. So, some coding is required
• PROFIT! (that’s the most important thing huh?)

Sabayon Linux 3.5 Loop3

The last chapter of Sabayon Linux 3.5 is being written as I write. I can anticipate you a few features:

• Improved boot speed (standard boot in around 15-25 seconds) mostly thanks to having moved /etc/init.d/xdm to the “boot” runlevel, but also to OpenRC and Baselayout 2.0.
• Installer: custom package selector, achieved embedding Spritz into Anaconda.
• 2.6.25 Kernel with improved hardware detection.

Expected release date: first days of May 2008.
To close this huge blog post, have a look at some Spritz (SVN) screenshots

Exciting things are moving under the hood. In short, Nova Linux team just discovered how good Entropy can be and that’s a good thing: after several months of silent hard work, code is starting to give back and it won’t be anything but better in the next few weeks. I’ve not started to work out a final ISO of Sabayon Linux 3.5 Loop1 yet but we are really close. Most of you may agree with me about preferring things that work, I think that the wait will be worth it in the end.
Nova Linux team is also interested in helping me out on the building of Spritz (the Entropy GUI). About Equo, we’re now at 0.8.14 release and I’m already working on two nice things that shouldn’t be missing: entropyzed (ahah) packages.mask support that will “unlock” me to provide kde4 binaries keeping them masked for example and, multiple packages support, if I would be talking about Gentoo, that would mean “slotting”, but we need to slot the slot, more or less this is intended as providing multiple releases for each package. How could we handle this on reagent? It won’t that hard, you’ll see.

But let’s talk about something you can “touch” now. http://packages.sabayonlinux.org will become our web-based packages repository service. At the moment, it reached the point it just has basic functionalities, more will come in the next days. So, this is my plan for the coming days:

• Add keywording support to Entropy (package.mask for example)
• Add multiple packages support to Entropy
• Rewrite the Anaconda-Sabayon Linux interface on the installer to take advantages from Entropy
• Work out 3.5 Loop1 releases with a LOT of exciting things!

Cheers!